[Ailist] Steve Jobs and AI?

Thu Mar 6 23:50:52 MST 2008

Interesting Leif.

Until 1990 I used IBM PCs.  From 1990 to 1995 I used Macs pretty much
exclusively, but found that non of my clients used Macs.  By 1998 I was
back to PCs and by 2003 I was dumping all my Mac printers and PCs.

I discovered that there are plenty of options when dealing with the
"IBM" platform.  I felt confined by the Mac option and I did not like
the arogance I was being chaneled into. As someone who uses a PC for
internet, MS Word, Excel, and Powerpoint I see absolutely no need to
deal with the arogance of the Mac world.  I see absolutely no benefit
from a Mac over a PC.  

As you say Leif, the Mac technology was the catalyst to improve the PC
environment.  In Chemistry you get rid of the catalyst when it has done
its job and that is also the case in organisational change - a change
agent (catalyst) is not appropriate in a changed world.  Once the change
is in place you just need something that works not a whole lot of
arrogance.

Lionel Boxer CD PhD MBA BTech(IndEng) - 0411267256
Associate of RMIT University - lionel.boxer at rmit.edu.au
Graduate School of Business
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>>> "Leif Josefsson" <leif.josefsson at gmail.com> 07/03/08 4:56 PM >>>
This is an interesting conversation!  I have been in contact with the
debate
of MAC vs PC for almost 20 years now.   And being right is not always
the
right thing.

*Reflection nr 1*
It's so obvious that a Mac is a much "better" product. And that every
Apple
product is a marvel of beauty compared to any other. But why has it not
taken more than a small part of the market?  Can it be that a lot of
people
resist the feeling of entering a religous sect when going for Mac?  That
we
prefer the chaotic world of an inferior system with lots of producers of
ugly machines?  Because it gives us the freedom of choice, and that some
of
us prefer to be agnostics also in the context of technology. Now that a
lot
of us (at least in Europe) has left a lot of religous faith in God
behind
us.

*Reflection nr 2*
On the other hand you could look at the perspective of appreciation. 
When
it comes to entrepreneurs it might be useful to appreciate them even if
they
are not very appreciative themselves.  If appreciation always mean to
smile
and be positive you might end up in a very boring and non creative
world.
But of course on the other hand - if Jobs "being right" story had been
complemented with a more appreciative perspective Apple might have had
25%
of the market instead of 8,1%

*Reflection nr 3*
One  interesting aspect with Apple is around metaphors.
http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mac/commentary/cultofmac/2007/10/cultofmac_1031
The user interface we know is based on office metaphors which date back
to
the Xerox Palo Alto Research office back in the 60s.  We are still stuck
with files, folders, wastebaskets etc.  As mobile technology makes it
possible to become much more part of "Mobile Ecosystems" than a well
functioning machine part, we need new metaphors both in our lifes and on
our
computer screen.   As Apple controls the interface, they have a great
opportunity to adapt to changing patterns in social behavior.

And this is also why a few of us have created the www.metafari.com -

Have a wonderful day!

/Leif

2008/3/6, Lionel Boxer <lionel.boxer at rmit.edu.au>:
>
> So, would Apple products be so "wonderful" if Jobs was not that way?
> Perhaps they would - how much better may they be if he were different?
> Something has always bothered me about Apple products; this quotation
> below helps me to articulate that the reason I have been bothered by
> Apple products is that they have a mood of arrogance about them.
>
> Lionel Boxer CD PhD MBA BTech(IndEng) - 0411267256
> Associate of RMIT University - lionel.boxer at rmit.edu.au
> Graduate School of Business
> What's up?: http://intergon.net/events.html
> The Sustainable Way: http://intergon.net/tsw
> >>> Hank Kearns <hkearns4 at comcast.net> 06/03/08 12:56 PM >>>
>
> http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/02/news/companies/elkind_jobs.fortune/
> index.htm
>
> I've been an Apple users all of my computer life, although not a
> knowledgeable as you and many others, and have felt a real allegiance
> to Apple. First I liked the product, but to be honest there was the
> "style" issue and pulling for the underdog attraction. I have mixed
> emotions when I read stories about Steve Jobs that talk of his
> arrogance, rudeness, and other undesirable traits. I guess I'm just
> an idealist, but I would rather have Steve be a little more
> humanistic. :)
>
> "As soon as people heard I was writing a book on assholes, they would
> come up to me and start telling a Steve Jobs story," says Sutton.
> "The degree to which people in Silicon Valley are afraid of Jobs is
> unbelievable. He made people feel terrible; he made people cry. But
> he was almost always right, and even when he was wrong, it was so
> creative it was still amazing." Says Palo Alto venture capitalist
> Jean-Louis Gasse, a former Apple executive who once worked with Jobs:
> "Democracies don't make great products. You need a competent tyrant."
>
> Can leaders have the success like Jobs and use the concepts of AI?
>
>
> Cannot wait for the next Apple product!! :)
>
> Hank Kearns
>
> - -
>
> www.greydogmac.com/
> Saying thank you is more than good manners. It is good spirituality.
> Alfred Painter:
>
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