Canada is not a state of the USA ... RE: [Ailist] Examining mental models

[Leif Josefsson]

Irresistable desire to continue the thread, but removing the sarcasm.

The conversation makes me appreciate development in Europe where the
expanded Schengen treaty from Jan 1 makes it possible to travel *from* the
arctic cirlce in Finland *to* Cabo de Sao Vicente in Portugal passing
Estonia, Latvia, Lithaunania, Poland, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, France
and Spain. (Check out
here)<http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=sv&msa=0&om=1&msid=109997574159115725113.0004436a59445db272276&ll=55.279115,13.007813&spn=33.307177,81.738281&z=4>
 * Without passport and any visible border control.  *Just an approved
EU identity card.
**
Of course this is a distance that can be contained inside the US, but four
of these contries were on the other side of the iron curtain just a little
more than 15 years ago. And the last two countries where fascist
dictatorships just some years earlier than that
**
The world is changing.  Mostly to the better.

Hejdå from Leif J



2008/1/10, LMLiz0810 at cs.com <LMLiz0810 at cs.com>:
>
> Please excuse me for continuing this tangent, but I culdn't resist.
>
> You mean Canada's not just another northern state, (she typed with more
> than
> a hint of sarcasm in her fingers), I just go there all the time.  I've
> lived
> on the border my whole life - first in the metro Detroit area and now in
> the
> greater Buffalo area.  Things have changed some starting in late '99, I
> take a
> passport these days, but we really do just go to Canada -- for lunch or
> dinner,
> for a better view of the (Niagara) Falls, a winery tour, and as a
> short-cut
> to visit family and friends in Detroit.
>
> In the early 80s we went to buy gas in Windsor; until about 18 months ago
> we
> would go shopping in St. Catherines or Toronto - even though the prices
> were
> higher the exchange rate made up for it (and if you spent the night you
> could
> get your sales tax rebated) -- ah those were the good old days (again,
> sarcasm
> dripping from my fingers).
>
> Now Canadians just come here to shop.  The weakened US dollar has really
> helped sales tax revenues in my county.  They also seem to be helping
> local
> charities.  It seems that these shoppers are leaving so many of their old
> clothes
> behind, wearing their new purchases to avoid the duty, the malls have put
> in
> bins so the old clothes can be donated to charities (instead of littering
> the
> parking lots).  The benefits of a weak US dollar!
>
> That's just life on the border.
>
> Again, I'm sorry for continuing this tangent.
>
> -Liz McGough
>
> In a message dated 1/9/2008 5:45:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> lionel.boxer at rmit.edu.au writes:
> > I like Bobbi's idea a lot.  I will likely give it a try.
> >
> > On another matter, in the interest of preventing misinformation from
> > becoming established fact - and being a Canadian by birth - I feel
> obliged to remind
> > her about the Sovereign demarkation that distinguishes Canada from USA.
> That
> > is, Canada is not a state of the USA (as is implied by the text below).
> > That will be made clear if if you do try to "go to Canada" from the USA,
> as you
> > need to go through customs to get there and again to get back to the
> USA.
> >
> > Of course I realise this confusion is simply a discursive slip and I am
> sure
> > that you realise my sense of humour is at work again.
> >
> > We experienced the customs issue in 1980, when we left Toronto to attend
> an
> > industrial engineering university conference in North Carolina State
> > University.  We drove down in a pickup truck - 3 of us in the cab and 3
> others in the
> > back asleep.  When we stopped in Washington for breakfast our Hong Kong
> born
> > team member (who owned the pickup truck) remembered that he left his
> > passport at home (at that time Canadians just needed to show their
> drivers licence).
> >  So, two weeks later, after attending the conference and diverting to
> Fort
> > Lauderdale for Spring Break, we put him in the back of the pickup under
> > sleeping bags and dirty laundry and the Customs guard had one look
> (smell) as he
> > opened the lid of the pickup and passed us through.  So, what does that
> make me
> > ...?
> >
> > Lionel Boxer CD PhD MBA BTech(IndEng) - 0411267256
> > Associate of RMIT University - lionel.boxer at rmit.edu.au
> > Graduate School of Business
> > What's up?: http://intergon.net/events.html
> > The Sustainable Way: http://intergon.net/tsw
> > >>>"Bobbi Bilnoski ~ Concinnity" <bilnoski at swbell.net> 10/01/08 3:09 AM
> >>>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Close your eyes and take 1 minute to imagine a map of the US, laid out
> in
> > this room. Visualize the west coast, the east coast, the Canada and
> Mexico
> > borders, how about Hawaii?
> >
> > Now, stand up. Got your mental map in mind? Everyone go stand on
> California,
> > now go to Washington DC, now go to Canada, how about Texas, Idaho, etc ?
> > (Pick any state you like)
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