[Ailist] Fake it till ya make it

Louise Griep lgriep at shaw.ca
Fri May 11 14:32:59 MDT 2007


Hi Cheri,

I like your "rabbit hole", and think when we discover the frame that might
have the pragmatic aspect to it as well.

I remember when I so desperately wanted a child and wasn't being successful,
one of my friends said to me something along the lines of "since it's
commonly accepted that desperation seems not to be the right frame of mind
for child-bearing, couldn't you pretend to yourself that you didn't really
care, and it would all come right?"  My response was "but I would know that
I was lying, and so it wouldn't work - this isn't a desire that I can
pretend away."

So I wonder if the discomfort some of us seem to have is with the term "lie"
or the sense of "faking it", when what we're expressing instead is that
deepest desire we have to grow toward something (even if it isn't evident to
anyone else that we can achieve it).  That deep desire, backed by some
pragmatic sense of how the world works, also gives us what we need to take
practical steps toward it (even if we have to wait sometimes for the
universe to reveal what those might be).  (I'm with you, Bruce, I think the
"wish and it will be yours" message does service to know one.)
 

Thanks,
Louise

-----Original Message-----
From: ailist-bounces at lists.business.utah.edu
[mailto:ailist-bounces at lists.business.utah.edu] On Behalf Of Cheri Torres
Sent: May 11, 2007 2:12 PM
To: 'Anna spector'; ailist at lists.business.utah.edu
Subject: RE: [Ailist] Fake it till ya make it

Hmmmm...

Perhaps in some sense we are always "faking" it, which is why in some
instances people have this sense of being "out on a limb" and that it is
somehow all made up.

...I'm thinking we are just beginning to touch the tip of what our brains
might actually be doing--perhaps we can't know yet because we haven't
created the frame yet to see it differently.  Since the brain responds to
the illusory and imagination as if it were real...perhaps that is all we are
ever doing when we are responding to "what is out there".

But I have now strayed very far down the rabbit hole....
Cheri

-----Original Message-----
From: ailist-bounces at lists.business.utah.edu
[mailto:ailist-bounces at lists.business.utah.edu] On Behalf Of Anna spector
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 3:15 PM
To: ailist at lists.business.utah.edu
Subject: Re: [Ailist] Fake it till ya make it

This thread is awesome!  I love hearing from some of my favorite people on
here!  
   
  I think we should all be allowed to wear a big sign that says "UNDER
CONSTRUCTION CHECK BACK LATER."  
  I think that the lies for the sake of moving towards becoming something
more are helpful, if we are indeed moving forward.  If we can match out
behavior with our "lies," authentic change can happen and that is truly
exciting!   I believe in more than fake it until you make it.  I think that
we don't ever really fake it, I believe that we already know we have the
ability to do it, we just lack follow through.  If we exhibit the behavior,
or fake it, aren't we doing it?  Plato used to tell his students that there
wasn't anything new to learn, but only things to be discovered that already
existed.
   
   
   
   
   
  Best,
  Anna Spector
  MA, Organizational Psychology, Seattle.

       
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