[Ailist] Additional thoughts on AI phases

[Jade Barclay]

Hi all,

Is "fluid dynamics" related to "spiral dynamics" (SD)??
If so, I'd love to discuss the interrelationship with SD, AI and org/culture
change.

Cheers,
Jade


On 2/13/07, Cheri Torres <cheri at mobileteamchallenge.com> wrote:
>
> Ron,
>
> Makes me wonder about "fluid dynamics"--Hmmmm does anyone know much about
> this?  How would this metaphor work?  :o)
>
> Cheri
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ailist-bounces at lists.business.utah.edu
> [mailto:ailist-bounces at lists.business.utah.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Smith
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 9:57 AM
> To: AI List Serve
> Subject: [Ailist] Additional thoughts on AI phases
>
> Cheri & others:
>
> Nicely put, its a bit "trite" but I have always like the idea that
> Michelangelo just "removed" what was not needed or what was in the way so
> to
>
> speak to create David.
>
> I think businesses understand that the world is often "calling" for
> something. They think of it as "marketing" and in the few AI projects I
> have
>
> done, the corporate clients have easily moved into a place where they look
> for alignment and connection with a deeper purpose that combines what the
> world seems to be asking for, what they personally align with and what the
> organization is "poised" to step into at that moment. The discovery
> process
> seems to let the uneeded stone fall away so the positive core reveals
> itself.  Sometimes I pray that an organization would have a distinct soul
> or
>
> consciousness that would respond to the world  or a higher power telling
> it
> that "we love you just the way you are" ....... and you are destined for
> great things.
>
> Cheri, I like your word "fluid" because managing change can feel herky
> jerky
>
> to these folks (me too!) and the idea that there may be a more fluid way
> to
> be is enticing. I also think there is something about the 4D's the 5I's
> and
> other models that tend to have us think that each phase is separate. The
> models help me organize my thoughts and the way a program will move along
> but I try to remember that Design and Destiny are not very distinct (more
> fluid eh!).
>
> Saludos,
>
> Ron Smith
> Director, CELULA
> Centro Experiencial de Liderazgo
> Universidad Latinoamericana
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cheri Torres" <cheri at mobileteamchallenge.com>
> To: "'Bill Scott'" <wjs.consulting at shaw.ca>; <mukul.kumar at rogers.com>;
> <ailist at lists.business.utah.edu>
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 7:25 AM
> Subject: RE: [Ailist] AI Introduction
>
>
> > Bill, Mukul, Amanda, and others:
> >
> > I am wondering about "Destiny" being framed as "tactics".  This sounds
> to
> > me
> > more like strategic planning and the mechanisms for achieving goals.
> >
> > I tend to think of Destiny as a more dynamic, fluid way of being in
> > relationship with one another that "allows" the dream to emerge.
> Wondering
> > if "systems" describes Design, then perhaps "relational dynamics"
> > describes
> > the Destiny that supports the systems design.
> >
> > Thoughts on this?
> >
> > Cheri
> >
> > Cheri B. Torres
> > www.mobileteamchallenge.com
> >
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ailist-bounces at lists.business.utah.edu
> > [mailto:ailist-bounces at lists.business.utah.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Scott
> > Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 12:11 PM
> > To: mukul.kumar at rogers.com; ailist at lists.business.utah.edu
> > Subject: RE: [Ailist] AI Introduction
> >
> > Hello Mukul,
> >
> > I'm sorry it's taken me so long to respond to you.
> >
> > Ultimately, I think business people will need to become more comfortable
> > with the
> > language of AI because there is some clear connection between the type
> of
> > language
> > being used and the philosophy that is AI. If they are uncomfortable with
> > the
> > language, will they be comfortable with the AI philosophy? In the
> > meantime,
> > there is
> > a very pragmatic issue to be addressed.
> >
> > I recently took some training with Amanda Trosten-Bloom where this very
> > subject of
> > corporate comfort level with the language was discussed. Here are the
> > terms
> > she
> > shared with us that may assist you (The bracketed information is my own
> > addition to
> > Amanda's thoughts:
> >   *  Discover = looking backwards (over our history as an organization)
> >   *  Positive Core = looking inwards (to determine what makes us a
> unique
> > organization)
> >   *  Dream = moving forward (with our vision of the future)
> >   *  Design = identifying systems (to implement our goals)
> >   *  Destiny = tactics (that can be used to implement our goals)
> >
> > I hope this is helpful.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bill Scott BSW, MBA
> >
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