[Ailist] Re: Ailist digest, Vol 1 #150 - 6 msgs

lorenklee lorenklee@email.msn.com
Mon, 21 Aug 2000 12:27:57 -0700


trisha:

greetings from the northwest in portland, oregon.

this serves as my first posting to the ailistserve. your question seemed
very geniune and filled with exploration (i.e, thats my perspective).  i
would suggest you explore the website of diane whitney and the taos
institute at http://www.taosinstitute.org. the site has a a great article
from the first chapter of whitney and cooperrider's 1999 book "appreciative
inquiry: rethinking human organization toward a positive theory" which has
substantial depth and some provocative insights about ai.

if you can't locate it there, you can find the article on my website under
the link "a positive revolution for change".

be well.

loren k. lee
chief provocateur
21st century organization development consulting
1.888.950.3532
http://www.greathorseresources.com


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>   1. New member signing in (Trish Stonestreet)
>   2. AI and Feelings (Brenda Turnbull)
>   3. Re: New member signing in (Bruce Halliday)
>   4. anger (dp)
>   5. Re: anger (rainey211@aol.com)
>   6. On- line encyclopedia of questions (elvira)
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> Message: 1
> From: "Trish Stonestreet" <maygrove@xtra.co.nz>
> To: <ailist@mail.business.utah.edu>
> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 09:45:29 +1200
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Subject: [Ailist] New member signing in
>
> I'm a new member to this list (among a few I gather) and am responding to
> the invitation from Jack Brittain - thanks Jack, nice to be invited - to
> introduce myself, how I came to find Ai and this list and what are my
> questions.
> I suspect the source of new members was probably from the ODNet list as AI
> was a thread in the past week and this list was posted as a place to get
> information.
> For me, it was an interesting thread about something that has been a part
of
> my OD process for many years and yet didn't have a label - that being, how
> do we get people to do more of what they do well and focus on what works,
> rather than what doesn't work.
> My overriding question is the most fundamental: what is AI, why, how,
what,
> what if, when, where, etc does it work.  I don't expect nor need to have
all
> this answered in this forum or by return email, but rather I'm happy to
sit
> and just notice what I notice for now.
> One specific question is this: how do I study this formally (or
informally)
> in my situation of 1. being in New Zealand, 2. without paying
astronomically
> for it (our exchange rate with the US is abysmal right now).  I'm
expecting
> my first child in December and could find some additional study useful
soon.
> And a comment: having received my first two digests I like what I read,
the
> way it is written and the no flame/spam policys.  It certainly feels like
a
> safe place to play!
> Thanks
> Trish
>
> Trish Stonestreet
> Maygrove Management Services Ltd
> PO Box 11-474, Wellington, New Zealand
> Ph: 04 472 5304
> Fax: 04 499 9860
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 09:45:39 +1000
> From: Brenda Turnbull <brenda.turnbull@mq.edu.au>
> Reply-To: brenda.turnbull@mq.edu.au
> Organization: Macquarie University
> To: ailist@business.utah.edu
> Subject: [Ailist] AI and Feelings
>
> Yes I'm very interested in this discussion too.
>
> It was thrown into high relief for me last week when I was working with
> a group along AI principles (context was re-energising self in an
> academic environment), and had some very vehement responses along the
> lines of 'but this is positivity, and there's anything BUT reasons to be
> positive in this environment'.
>
> The best way I could struggle at the time to explain it, is that it's
> really not about positivity at all....it's about
> life-bouyancy.....seeing that what I'm/you're experiencing and where
> I'm/you're 'at' right now is valuable and provides the guide to the next
> shift.  So with people experiencing any of the feelings of grief, how I
> see it is that wherever they're 'at' is totally valuable, and if I can
> be with them exactly there, embracing (not colluding), and explore,
> feel, understand that space with them, then that's A.I.(or whatever else
> we want to call it....A.I.will do)....I see it as an attitudinal thing
> that's about using everything as an opportunity for living, I
> suppose....everyting has a value....buoyancy in life....not about
> plastering over life with some false sense of 'always look to the bright
> side' etc etc.
>
> So with the people last week, we started to really explore their
> feelings of hopelessness, cynicism, pain, and as we did, started to get
> underneath that to the unrealised hopes, dreams, passions etc etc, and
> then that created further shifts etc
>
> Anyway that's how I'm understanding it at the moment.
>
> Brenda Turnbull
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 21:49:27 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Ailist] New member signing in
> From: Bruce Halliday <bruceh@cadvision.com>
> To: <ailist@mail.business.utah.edu>
>
> Trish, Welcome. A great place to start is Sue Hammond's site at
> www.thinbook.com. It has reference books and links to other AI web sites.
> You might consider Canada as a location for AI training- better exchange
> rate. Lia Bosch at creative edge here in Calgary is an excellent contact
for
> you     creative.edge@cadvision.com
>
> All the best, Bruce
> --
> Bruce Halliday
> B. Halliday Consulting Inc.
>
> the human side of business
> Calgary, Alberta, Canada
> bruceh@cadvision.com
>
> "connecting as human beings first to co-create preferred futures"
>
>
> > From: "Trish Stonestreet" <maygrove@xtra.co.nz>
> > Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 09:45:29 +1200
> > To: <ailist@mail.business.utah.edu>
> > Subject: [Ailist] New member signing in
> >
> > I'm a new member to this list (among a few I gather) and am responding
to
> > the invitation from Jack Brittain - thanks Jack, nice to be invited - to
> > introduce myself, how I came to find Ai and this list and what are my
> > questions.
> > I suspect the source of new members was probably from the ODNet list as
AI
> > was a thread in the past week and this list was posted as a place to get
> > information.
> > For me, it was an interesting thread about something that has been a
part of
> > my OD process for many years and yet didn't have a label - that being,
how
> > do we get people to do more of what they do well and focus on what
works,
> > rather than what doesn't work.
> > My overriding question is the most fundamental: what is AI, why, how,
what,
> > what if, when, where, etc does it work.  I don't expect nor need to have
all
> > this answered in this forum or by return email, but rather I'm happy to
sit
> > and just notice what I notice for now.
> > One specific question is this: how do I study this formally (or
informally)
> > in my situation of 1. being in New Zealand, 2. without paying
astronomically
> > for it (our exchange rate with the US is abysmal right now).  I'm
expecting
> > my first child in December and could find some additional study useful
soon.
> > And a comment: having received my first two digests I like what I read,
the
> > way it is written and the no flame/spam policys.  It certainly feels
like a
> > safe place to play!
> > Thanks
> > Trish
> >
> > Trish Stonestreet
> > Maygrove Management Services Ltd
> > PO Box 11-474, Wellington, New Zealand
> > Ph: 04 472 5304
> > Fax: 04 499 9860
> >
> >
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> Message: 4
> From: "dp" <dpiranian@mindspring.com>
> To: "AIlist serve" <ailist@business.utah.edu>
> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 07:48:45 -0600
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Subject: [Ailist] anger
>
> I would like put forth a defense of anger.  In and of itself I believe it
to
> be just another emotion.  The problem is not in the emotion, but what we
do
> with it.  I have discovered that anger is often a flag - it comes up in
> response to seeing people act in a way that seems inappropriate or
unethical
> (disrespectful, violating boundaries, lack of compassion........).  If I
> just dwell in the anger all I get is heightened blood pressure, a sense of
> righteousness.....  Another choice is to examine the situation and take
> action.  That may mean sorting through the emotion and then addressing the
> people involved in a constructive manner.  It may mean a self-examination:
> in what ways am I projecting dissatisfaction with myself onto others.  In
> this case, the anger can lead me to "clean up my own act."
> Perhaps the best service we can provide in working with people is helping
> them find the vitality in every situation.  If we allow anger to be
another
> valid emotion, we can then use it to discover what truly matters to us.
And
> therein lies the life-giving qualities of anger.
> Deb
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 5
> From: Rainey211@aol.com
> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 12:47:14 EDT
> Subject: Re: [Ailist] anger
> To: dpiranian@mindspring.com, ailist@business.utah.edu
>
> Deb,
>
> I agree that anger is a valid emotion and is separate from the
> behavior/reactions that we may have while "feeling" the emotion. I have
found
> most want their feelings to be acknowledged so that they can move forward
> with whatever path they choose in dealing with the emotion. Acknowledgment
is
> a crucial step that follows awareness for me. And applying any process (AI
or
> other) would then follow. I agree that the emotion may hinder forward
> movement if not recognized and honored with the individual. I have
witnessed
> this with rehab groups that I work with and seen just how powerful AI has
> been with empowering them and getting them out of a "spinning" cycle.
Thanks
> for offering your views on this.
>
> Rainey
> MTC Associates, LLC
> 888-681-0146
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> From: "elvira" <magicsol@earthlink.net>
> To: <ailist@mail.business.utah.edu>
> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 13:06:45 -0700
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Subject: [Ailist] On- line encyclopedia of questions
>
> Hi my friends,
>
> Jack, it seems that you were reading my mind when you invited the new
> members to participate. I had been thinking about contacting all of you, I
> guess I only needed your message to jump into it so.here I am. My name is
> Elvira Rodrigo. I'm from Spain but I'm currently living in Chicago (any
> AIers in the area?).  There are a couple of reasons why I wanted to
contact
> you:
> First.thank you all because of the quality dialogue you have all been
> sharing through the list serve. It's a pleasure to be part of it.
> Secondly.I have a project in mind that I want to share with you and seek
> for your feedback and input. I had the opportunity to meet David
Cooperrider
> last June and he suggested the idea of compiling questions used by
> practitioners during the discovery phase of AI.
> Since then I've been thinking about it and.what's your opinion about doing
> an on line encyclopedia of appreciative questions?
> I would compile in the database those questions that we as practitioners
> want to share with the rest of the community, those either having been
used
> in the past or used currently as part of the discovery phase.
> How will we all benefit from this "encyclopedia"? Any practitioner from
any
> part of the world could access the database and retrieve questions that
they
> could use as a base for their interventions. The data could be searched by
> words, project, practitioner, topic, grade of efficacy (probably rated by
> the practitioner who submitted the question).and maybe in the future by
> language as well.
> I'm currently a MSOD student at Pepperdine and I'm doing my thesis about
> "The discovery phase of AI: How to create and sustain the "magic" during
the
> interview".
> Part of my analysis would be the language used during the interview and if
> you agree, I could use some of the questions submitted to the encyclopedia
> to do a content analysis.
> Now I need your feedback:
>
> 1. What do you think about having an on line encyclopedia of positive
> questions? What do you think about sharing questions that will be entered
on
> line? Do you find it to be a valuable resource for the field?
> 2. As possible future users of the encyclopedia, what kind of search would
> you like to be able to use to retrieve the data? Suggestions are: topic,
> word, practitioner, project, and efficacy. What do you think?
> 3. Any suggestions, research articles or books I could use for my thesis?
My
> intention is to develop a model or approach to apply during the discovery
> phase. I would greatly appreciate it!
> 4. Any thoughts, questions, comments?
>
> This project only makes sense if it's useful and is designed to meet the
> practitioner's needs, your needs. So based on your feedback I may or may
not
> move forward with the design of the database. If you think the
encyclopedia
> would be a helpful resource then I will follow up on ways to collect data
> from you so I can start entering it on line.
>
> Thanks so much (especially for reading such a long message!;-) and I look
> forward to hearing from you!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Elvira Rodrigo
>
>
>
>
>
>
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